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    Remove inventor already

    since beta, i always found any game with inventor = an instant loss.

    They are squishy, they can't do enough AA dmg, their AOE damage have low range and does little. Their turret are completely junk.

    What they are good for is feeding the other team

    either buff that class or just give us artist too.

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    Although Inventor is weaker than Artiste (in my opinion), if he plays his cards well, he can be quite good. I've seen enough good Inventors.

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    They should increase his components gaining by 50%.

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    U mean more like 200%

    Artist - use ult - spam spam spam spam massive aoe dmg supper low cd's + lots of bonus to AA damage
    Inventor - use ult- use 1 more abililty and gain 20% damage that's 35 more damage to your aa when int focused, sooo much booost just kills everyone ....

    Not to mention its hard to time ur Vita's so when one goes off the other one takes on ,to increase the healing a bit , since its low even when ur int ,at lest not till late game

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    Currently, Inventor is only good for challenges. He is squishy, and has no good escape abilities.

    I'd rather pick Doc instead of him.

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    don't remove it... just give the hero to keepers as well.... then we are balanced!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Diving Rabbit View Post
    don't remove it... just give the hero to keepers as well.... then we are balanced!!!
    Tsuda said Nival is not gonna do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Bandito View Post
    Tsuda said Nival is not gonna do that.
    Meh, all that is needed is a slight buff, he's not terribly underpowered unless you compare him to Ha'ka or Nox/Vryl.

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    Inventor should be buffed slightly for a better late game in my humble opinion.

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    Hmm try str build.
    He do normal AA damage and bomb can give you good farm. After end wave go and take jungle pack .

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    If u go str u have dmg from grenade and AA, your MG deals less tho and ur healing drops down as well as turrets damage so u die even faster hehe.Str has damage, INT has healing, both suck when u get attacked by 2 players hehe

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    Thats how play russian's top clans. make overfarm to 1 hero, zuma send him starfall and healing spell, jungler make hot pack for him (damage all pack, so mid hero can go and take pack in 3-4 shots). And after 10min this hero start destroy enemy team in 1 face.
    So this pathetic tactics can be easy implemented with str inventor

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    Quote Originally Posted by senioro pomidoro View Post
    Thats how play russian's top clans. make overfarm to 1 hero, zuma send him starfall and healing spell, jungler make hot pack for him (damage all pack, so mid hero can go and take pack in 3-4 shots). And after 10min this hero start destroy enemy team in 1 face.
    So this pathetic tactics can be easy implemented with str inventor
    Overfarm one hero, sure, but not the inventor xD
    pretty sad team comp if u have to overfarm your inventor.

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    Here are some fix i think inventor should get.

    - Bomb should be Auto-follow. Artiste's attack are all auto follow and hit. Why shouldn't inventor's one auto follow.

    - buff the guns please and make them "FOLLOW" the inventor. Not only they hit less than a minion does right now, they only shoot once or twice as player run by so quickly.

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    I can open 1 horrible secret Artiste's vs inventor's war begins from start of RU closed beta, this 2 hero rebalanced about 3 or 4 times.
    So Nival make decision make them most weaker heroes of PW to end this war .

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    easy enough,,, give us artiste and keeper can have inventor.

    I would be very happy on that result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senioro pomidoro View Post
    So Nival make decision make them most weaker heroes of PW to end this war .
    Ahaha, that's why Artiste has the highest DPS of the game in late game. And why she has the highest dps? Because she has weak escape, so, that's completly normal.
    Inventor maybe doesnt have the same dps has her, but, he's still good to play, and his passive -30% in shop is really strong, if you play With a whisp or Against a whisp, or both at the same time.

    Eye for 270 golds instead of 400 is op
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachry View Post
    Ahaha, that's why Artiste has the highest DPS of the game in late game. And why she has the highest dps? Because she has weak escape, so, that's completly normal.
    Inventor maybe doesnt have the same dps has her, but, he's still good to play, and his passive -30% in shop is really strong, if you play With a whisp or Against a whisp, or both at the same time.

    Eye for 270 golds instead of 400 is op
    Yeah, that passive is pretty under-rated... I can buy my own wards as carry with it while our "supports" continue to buy their dps talents -.-

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    artiste actually run faster than my duelist. Let's not talk about weak escape. I never caught a caught an artiste that ran away.

    Not to mention, her range is insane.. Early game and end game, she dominate them all.
    Not to mention, HER HP is insane, she isn't squishy like cyro but hit more than cyro.

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    Lol?

    How she could be faster than duelist, who has twice more speed bonus? o.O

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    Yeah, i know, i read that too. I found 5 "answers" :

    - She is lv 17, she has icy power, and she buff herself : -20% and +30% create a difference in move speed, but, duelist has +60% from his selfbuff...

    - She slow him, 30%, and drink a speed potion.

    - She slow him 30%, and she active the Speed of moment tier 3 from her shoes tier 4, yo, every 180s...

    - She has a Wolf dancer in her team, buffing her +40% , and she slow you by 30%.

    - She has a fucking Haste Glyph and she kill you anyway.
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    i mean my eraser not duelist. (20% speed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachry View Post
    Yeah, i know, i read that too. I found 5 "answers" :

    - She is lv 17, she has icy power, and she buff herself : -20% and +30% create a difference in move speed, but, duelist has +60% from his selfbuff...

    - She slow him, 30%, and drink a speed potion.

    - She slow him 30%, and she active the Speed of moment tier 3 from her shoes tier 4, yo, every 180s...

    - She has a Wolf dancer in her team, buffing her +40% , and she slow you by 30%.

    - She has a fucking Haste Glyph and she kill you anyway.
    I literally chased an Artist (with 1/10th hp) with duelist from mid to just outside her fountain to kill her. I knew she was fast, but this fast??

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    artiste is one of the fastest class in game.

    I always have trouble chasing them.

    I don't see inventor run fast. They are practically free kill since they have no escape talent.

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    Change Inventor please, I hate playing it. Ive tried lots of builds and it just dies horribly. If an inventor is doing well its because the other team are rubbish.
    I hate playing in a team with it. It is by FAR the worst character on the imperium side by a LONG way. I understand you have weaker characters but I would seriously rather play 4 vs 5 and not have him in the team.
    His AOA ulti is so poor, after the first few levels he is useless against a hero. I refuse my clan mates to play him in a team and I tell them not to bother with it.

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    faster if they just copy artiste and put it on imprerium side...and give keeper the inventor so we can win more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Falcona View Post
    His AOA ulti is so poor
    His ulti his an Intel spell, and it's super strong if you play Intel inventor.
    If you play Str, you don't even Buy your ulti because you'll never use it in game, you just buy another talent, and play Auto attack/bomb.

    If inventor was horrible, he couldn't be one of my 3 mains at 2k+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachry View Post
    His ulti his an Intel spell, and it's super strong if you play Intel inventor.
    If you play Str, you don't even Buy your ulti because you'll never use it in game, you just buy another talent, and play Auto attack/bomb.

    If inventor was horrible, he couldn't be one of my 3 mains at 2k+
    I play str and it's still useful early and later to get those out of range that barely escape + invis.

    I always have the least amount of deaths as inventor, I say let them come to you, he's an ultimate tower defender.
    I run shadow cover on him as well as that 90% dmg reduction shield for survivability.

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    I played Int inventor and personally prefer it but i would like it if they re-worked his passive in some way.

    He has the knock-up from his bomb to help him escape and yes its not a guaranteed escape tool but running out of components all the time is frustrating in team fights. Which is partly why str inventor is more dominant.

    Just some adjustment like "When inventor kills a minion he gains 10 components (15sec cooldown)"

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    Inventor nerfed really hard.. I think there's no way to make him balanced unless it's a rework.. ;w;

    Rework for inventor would be really nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jessica- View Post
    Inventor nerfed really hard.
    I remember the first week-end closed beta, when we were all yellow/green, and we had to do the 10 wins quest on keeper side... That was fucking HaRdC0rE because Inventor was so fucking OP, he was 95% free win alone, and sometime even better : 2 inventors in the same team (yeah because in 10 wins quest, you could pick double hero, easy)

    Golden time... or not

    For a rework, i dont know, i was thinking about something : maybe if they change the Camouflaged turret (tier2, dmg turrets evolution) that could be enough. For example :
    - Remove the +20% chance to critical, but add a slow effect by 15 or 20% <== That would be an "escape" mechanic in early. Turrets are still killable and they dont move like wolfs so he wouldnt become ungankable or chasable. In Team fight/late game it would be almost useless because of icy power, others slow in team > 20% and others CC. So it wouldnt be "OP".
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    Just delete his passive, increase mana costs for skills and replace it with something like:
    For every talent used, inventors damage is increased by 5%, stack up 4 times for 10 sec.
    Last edited by NedKelly; 05-18-2014 at 10:23 PM.

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    His machines cant move and dont regen hp like pets tho, that's a bit of problem cuz it makes them easy prime for enemy, and low components for inventor.
    Also it would be nice if MG energy cost was x/sec, since a small silence or stunt and u get interrupted

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    Make his Vita to have higher base heal.

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    The rofflecopter that he sends out should do a knock up+ stun, with a little bit more damage. Plus his turret health need to scale to his level.

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    Say what you will but he kinda owns in 3v3 . BTW anyone tried him as a "support" , I know there are better supports but he does seem to have potential with aura items ... To bad I can't play him coz I am on the keepers side.

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    he need a light bulb or a rocket launcher

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrong89 View Post
    he need a light bulb or a rocket launcher
    U mean a Jetpack, if hes inventor he should invent one >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jessica- View Post
    Inventor nerfed really hard.. I think there's no way to make him balanced unless it's a rework.. ;w;

    Rework for inventor would be really nice.


    inventor with 10k hp should have turrets with 3k HP for rebalancing...


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    Quote Originally Posted by A Diving Rabbit View Post
    inventor with 10k hp should have turrets with 3k HP for rebalancing...
    Well you can have turrets with over 3k hp (trollolol)
    But yeah... I don't recommend it...

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